19 Feb 16, 10:46 AM
G. Naraynaswamy: According to a report published in The Hindu, the Govt. is considering review of OROP pension denied to Premature retirees in the Armed Forces. The Defence Minister justifies OROP every five years.
an independent initiative...
Friday, February 19, 2016
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19 Feb 16, 06:35 AM
nithin_pb: The issues have been framed. Answer is very clear tacitly eloquent.
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Thousands of students, teachers and civil society members across the country protested onThursday against the arrest of JNU student leader Kanhaiya Kumar on charges of sedition, as a bitter row over free speech and nationalism spilled into the streets.
Clashes were reported in several states, as the BJP launched a nationwide Jan Swabhiman Abhiyan to back action against students of the Delhi-based university who allegedly raised anti-India slogans on the campus this month.
An estimated 5,000 people chanting “release Kanhaiya Kumar” and “down with state terrorism” marched through the heart of Delhi in one of the biggest student protests India has seen in years.
(the hindustan times,new delhi)
NATHURAM GODSE
Amid reports of a
controversial ceremony organised by the right-wing groups in Maharashtra to honour Mahatma Gandhi's killer, Nathuram Godse, BJP MP Sakshi
Maharaj said, "Godse was a nationalist. Gandhiji also did a lot for the
nation."
In October this year, a
Malayalam mouthpiece of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh had said that Nathuram
Godse should have killed former Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru and not Gandhi.
"Godse was much better than Nehru - he pulled the trigger on Gandhiji's
chest after a respectful bow. But Nehru stabbed him from behind and greeted him
from front," the editorial said.
(India Today)
Comments
18 Feb 16, 10:39 PM
Indian: 2.You raise slogan against India and call it dissent ?
Indian: 3.You celebrate a terrorist responsible of death of security personnel protecting this country and call it dissent?
Indian: 4.LIC insures Indian Citizens who are victim of terrorism and this blog is promoting individuals who kill innocent Indians.
Two issues raised
ISSUE ONE - Indian 1,2,3 - Should we not punish them?
ISSUE TWO - Should an 'Indian' have a face to come out openly and boldly speak the words of his conviction ? -Ed.
Thursday, February 18, 2016
M.Sreenivasa Murty
Those interested may please read the Punjab & Haryana HC Order dated 16 Feb 2016, (appended) and appreciate how LIC retains Sr Advocates, who have no qualms to mislead even the higher judiciary of the country, to harass its own former employees. P&H HC Order of 16 Feb 2016 confirms my accusation.
To refresh the memory of PC readers (whether they read directly or on being reproduced in their own preferred Blogs later) P&H HC passed an Order on 14/12/2015, directing LIC ‘to file an Affidavit explaining as to how the amount of Rs.33,67,838/- deposited earlier is considered to be the entire dues payable to the Petitioners’. Supposed to be done before the hearing
As is its wont, LIC filed a 102 Page reply dated 23/01/2016 but made sure that the HC’s directive of 14/12/2015 has not been complied with. Instead, LIC submitted its bulky calculations with a prayer to ‘take on record’ that an additional sum of Rs.1,29,278/- is yet to be deposited’, without explaining mischievously why and how the shortfall has occurred in the first place.
During the hearing of the matter on 16/02/2106, LIC’s Sr Counsel described it as ‘small amount of interest due’. And was slapped with a directive to deposit the additional sum of Rs.1,29,278/- within one week.
Mr GNS, if (at all) you wish to take note, please study (can send LIC’s 102 page Affidavit, if you ask for it) and accept that LIC which trapped you with its communication dated 6/7/2015, has fallen in its own trap and had to admit (indirectly but incontrovertibly) that the Pensioners who retired BEFORE 01/04/1993, have been paid less.
Mr GNS, you represent them; don’t you? After all, all pre-1/4/1993 retirees are also pre-August 97 retirees and part of your disowned ‘in-rem’ constituency.
I am aware, some friends from elsewhere, would pounce on me, ‘when we are trying for Final Hearing and up-gradation, what is all this’? They may please note that if something seriously wrong happens during the Final Hearing, the damage is also final and may be irreversible. You and I can only blame thereafter, those who don’t believe in up-gradation, as our right and so are assisting LIC in resisting it by hook or crook. And others, who believe in and want up-gradation but can’t deliver as they are so confused, living in a house in disarray.
The recent Posts in the PC of SN, MVV & GR, blessing the sincerity of my commitment and approach, added to the enormous strength and support I receive in the company of Sri C H Mahadevan, do guide and encourage me to continue to do my bit.
I have not given up and I will not.
To read P&H HC order, click here.
To read P&H HC order, click here.
Wednesday, February 17, 2016
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P.N.Nagaraju DZM(Retd): Dear Gangadharanji, The Cartoon toothless Pensioner is really superb.
Tuesday, February 16, 2016
CASE ADJOURNED IN VIEW OF SC 10TH MARCH HEARING
Dear Editor,
As per a message received from Mr BR Mehta who was in the Court along with Mr S N Chhabra & Mr Brijjit Singh, LIC Sr Counsel prevailed upon the Court to adjourn the matter as the Supreme Court is seized of the Appeals which are slated for Final Hearing. Details are awaited.
Let's see what is awaiting poor LIC Pensioners on 10 March 2016.
Thanks and regards,
Sreenivasa Murty M
As per a message received from Mr BR Mehta who was in the Court along with Mr S N Chhabra & Mr Brijjit Singh, LIC Sr Counsel prevailed upon the Court to adjourn the matter as the Supreme Court is seized of the Appeals which are slated for Final Hearing. Details are awaited.
Let's see what is awaiting poor LIC Pensioners on 10 March 2016.
Thanks and regards,
Sreenivasa Murty M
Today in P & H High Court
Dear Editor,
As our Pensioner-friends are aware, the Contempt case as well as our prayer for withdrawal of the amount deposited by LIC, are posted for hearing today.
The matters are just now being heard by Justice Rakesh Jain.
Please await outcome and details.
M. Sreenivasa Murty
As our Pensioner-friends are aware, the Contempt case as well as our prayer for withdrawal of the amount deposited by LIC, are posted for hearing today.
The matters are just now being heard by Justice Rakesh Jain.
Please await outcome and details.
M. Sreenivasa Murty
Demarcating line to decide biased/unbiased very thin !
Dear Editor,
The other day one of my friend sent me a quotation on whatsapp which means " During Love , even silence is also properly understood and during hatred even loud but right words are also misunderstood. "
Yes, as per my view you as an editor are doing your job in a totally unbiased manner following your own editorial policy strictly. But those who themselves are having their own hidden agendas and project themselves as the only true champions of LIC Pensioners will never be able to see the real beauty and excellence being reflected in your blog. No big issue. Beauty lies in the eyes of beholder only.
Regards,
B.R.Mehta
"The pensioner is laughing. That is great!"
16 Feb 16, 07:26 AM
Bhaktavatsalarao.k: The picture of toothless pensioner is beautiful. Though he is sad, he is laughing. That is great.
Bhaktavatsalarao.k: The picture of toothless pensioner is beautiful. Though he is sad, he is laughing. That is great.
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| Belligerent attitude - THE SAD PICTURE OF AN OLD TOOTHLESS PENSIONER. WHO WILL LISTEN HIM? |
Pensioner ID Cards
15 Feb 16, 10:36 PM
P.N.Nagaraju DZM(Retd): Consequent upon the introduction of Pension Module the Pension I.D. Nos. have changed differently and when I approached the OS department for issue of new Pensioners Card and New Nominees Card with new Pension ID numbers the response was really not welcome and they have a belligerent attitude towards pensioners. Through these columns I request Sri. CH. Mahadevan Sir and R.B.Kishore Sir to take up the matter with Central Office to issue instructions to OS Department for issue of Correct Pension ID cards and Nominee I.D. cards which is a necessity and essential.
Premium for enhanced SA
15 Feb 16, 10:47 PM
v.s.rajamani: Thanks to LIC for enhancing Mediclaim SA upto 30 lakhs. As the insured has to know his/her exact commitment of premium from the date of publication of revised premium, 10 to 15 days may be given to the pensioners to opt for the desired SA.
Monday, February 15, 2016
ARREARS TO RETIREES
15 Feb 16, 08:43 PM
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| "Your welfare is our responsibility." Whose welfare? Of course not of pensioners! |
COMMENTS 15 Feb 16, 12:37 PM Mc pawar: एक खबर --- LIC has sent necessary instructions for release of arrears to post 1-8-2012 retirees. The work will be taken up immediately and arrears and other connected works completed at the earliest. दूसरी खबर -- अभी तक शाखाओ में एरियर बनने की शुरूआत नही हुई , सम्भावित कारण , उचित वरिष्ठ अधिकारियों का उचित आदेश की कमी और शाखाओ में स्टाफ की कमी होना ? |
WHY RETIRED CLASS I OFFICERS’ ASSOCIATION, HYDERABAD WAS CONSTRAINED TO DISAFFILIATE FROM THE FEDERATION?
FOR INFORMATION OF ALL LIC PENSIONERS
15/2/2016
Now coming to the disaffiliation of our Association, the reasons lie much deeper than what Mr GNS has made them out to be. The reason has got much to do with the style of functioning of Mr Sridharan in the matter of openness and transparency in approach while conducting the affairs of the Federation.
After the General Council Meeting held in Mumbai on 2nd December 2013,I continued as a member of the Executive Committee of the Federation. The General Secretary had issued a circular dt 24th Feb 2014 regarding the proposal for impleadment of the Federation in the CA No 1289/2007 which was received by me only after 15th March 2014.It was a circular asking for concurrence from EC members for filing an IA in the Supreme Court. But before receiving the letter from the General Secretary, I received a copy of the draft of the IA dt 6/2/2014 by email from another external source and I pointed out this serious lack of timely communication to Mr GNS by an e-mail and asked him to confirm the contents of the final IA which had already been filed in the first week of March 2014.Mr GNS did not either confirm the contents of the draft sent by me or share the copy of the final IA as desired by me. The contents of the IA in my view had a number of serious weaknesses and had I received a copy of the draft before the Federation deciding to file the application in the SC, I would have expressed my personal dissent. One of the major weaknesses was the prayer made in the Application that that the amounts due to the members as per the Delhi HC judgment may be directed to be paid in the High Court Registry as was done in the case of Jaipur petitioners. This prayer according to me was unacceptable when the payments made in Jaipur Registry were contested for their nonconformity with the HC judgment. Even though Mr Sridharan claimed that majority of EC Members had given their concurrence for the proposal, I don’ t think any EC member except those very close to him would have seen the draft of the IA if at all, much less known the contents.
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Comments
14 Feb 16, 06:52 PM
P.N. Nagaraju DZM(Retd): I am regularly following up the Pensioners Chronicle for quite a long time. I find that Sri. Gangadharanji is unbiased and giving opportunity to express the views of pensioners for the benefit of pensioners only. It will be right on our part to appreciate the yeomen services rendered by our Editor. I wish him all Good Luck in this great endeavour.
14 Feb 16, 09:54 PM
14 Feb 16, 09:54 PM
v.s.rajamani: Dear Editor ji, Mr.SN ji has described in an unbiased manner, in short and crisp words, the Editorial policy of PC. Finally his quote of the proverb is absolutely apt for the present day world. Sometimes when I open the PC I feel like drenched in Literary wealth. Nice experience. Thank you Editor ji and all those who have posted nice articles, posts, views etc.
Sunday, February 14, 2016
SN (A 1992 Pensioner)
Shri P.G.Gangadharanji, the Editor, LIC PC does not belong either to the left or to the centre or to the right. He is unbiased. He is neutral. He is open to all. He entertains all excepting a few when he or she wants to thrust his or her ideas against his (the Editor's) ideas, ideals.
Shri Gangadharanji has given larger than life size canvas to express 'on line' his or her views to ones own heart's content.
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Undoubtedly, all the leaders have been labouring hard towards one and the same objective. The Apex Court has rightly tagged all the cases together. The Court recognises the true spirit of, " Ekam sat vipra bahuda vadanti "
The case managers and their counsellors are at liberty to prove their plea at the Bench, at the Court. They may like to follow the policy of supplement not supplant.
As Shri B. Ganga Raju rightly said some days back that the case managers have not to fight their cases in the Blog (PC) but at the Bench. Here, in PC, they get some
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| Right Bar Chat column discussion |
Let me end this note with a well known proverb, "Often, we
are let down by the most trusted people and loved by most
unexpected ones. Some make us cry for things we haven't done
while others ignore our flaws and just want to see we smile.
Some leave us when we need them at home most, while some
stay with us even when we ask them to leave. The world is full
of a mixture of people. We need to learn which hand to shake
and which hand to hold."
SN ( a 1992 pensioner )
MEDICLAIM SA OPTION UPTO MAXIMUM OF RS.30 LACS NOW
(This report originally published on Right Bar now shifted
to main page.)
COMMENTS ON CH MAHADEVAN's POST
14 Feb 16, 01:17 PM
subbu: CHM Sir ! A very subtle point indeed !
SN's COMMENTS
subbu: CHM Sir ! A very subtle point indeed !
SN's COMMENTS
14 Feb 16, 02:44 PM SN: Wow! Shri CH ahadevan has shot at LIC from a well calculated strategic point. It can be said that Shri Mahdevan, with all his earlier findings and his latest finding/revelation, has caught both LIC and GOI from all sides, from all angles. Good day! |
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14 Feb 16, 12:32 PM G.Krishna Prasad.: Editor's point re: objectivity of Chronicle (Post on 13th) is well taken.Some 'prolific' contributors misuse the forum to hurl accusations at some normally reticent and discreet people. And that is unfortunate. As some one rightly said, the case is to be fought before the bench, not in the blog. |
CH MAHADEVAN
HOW NOTIONAL
UPGRADATON WITH
WEIGHTAGE IS PROVIDED FOR ALL
PURPOSES OTHER THAN REAL UPGRADATION
OF PENSION
As per the standard
practice followed by LIC after every
wage revision, administrative instructions
are issued by LIC (1)for revision
of minimum pension,(2) revision of basic
pay slabs for family pension
determination and (3) revision of basic
pay slabs for category
determination under group mediclaim .
The circular in
respect of the first two items are yet to be issued or if issued, yet to come
to the knowledge of pensioners. The first two relate only to those who retire
after the effective date of the wage revision before the effective date of next
wage revision. But
item (3) applies to all the pensioners.
As regards item no (3),
the circular issued by CO dt 12/2/2016 already contains revision of salary slabs
for category determination as follows:
Before 1/8/2012
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From 1/8/2012
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Scaled up amount based on DA merger principle
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Weightage provided for revision of slabs (%)
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(1)
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Minimum of Slab
(2)
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Maximum of Slab
(3)
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Minimum of Slab
(4)
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Maximum of Slab
(5)
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Minimum of Slab
(6)
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Maximum of Slab
(7)
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Minimum of Slab
(8)(Col 4/Col 6)x100-100
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Maximum of Slab
(9) (Col 5/Col 7)x100-100
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Category III
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22146
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42195
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0
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36796
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14.67
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Category II
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22147
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30749
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42196
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58689
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36797
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51089
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14.67
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14.87
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Category I
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30750
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58690
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51091
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0
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14.87
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Even though the
circular does not specify that the categories of old retirees will remain the
same as before as was the practice earlier, we may expect a clarification to
that effect from CO separately.
But what is
significantly to be noted is that the old pensioners are treated
notionally as having been provided upgradation
of pension with a weightage
ranging from 14/67% to 14/87%(
w.r .t the scales of pay prevalent just before 1/8/2012 who were in
service as at 1/8/2012). This is in recognition of the fact that that
the old pensioners need to be given
the same treatment in respect of
mediclaim cover as the present employees
and latest retirees/Does this mean that LIC is magnanimous to provide notional upgradation of pension with weightage when it has
no need to pay any monetary benefits
to the retirees on such revision?
This is a point that
the case managers will do well to bring to the notice of the Supreme Court
Bench to prove that LIC chooses to adopt
the principle of weighted upgradation selectively where it suits the
Corporation.
Greetings.
C H Mahadevan
Saturday, February 13, 2016
RK VISWANATHAN
Shri M.V.Venugopalan’s write up is a wakening call to decipher
some gray arrears which would lead to animated arguments when the Bench sits on
March 10. Anticipating any eventualities we should be fully prepared. Shri MVV
has said that until such time the Government has disapproved the Board’s resolution
we cannot call SEC 48 as draconian and the Government has not done it so far.
Brushing up my memory I have to say that in the course of
earlier arguments before the court it was averred by the UOI that the Board
resolution is not mandatory but could only be deemed as a recommendation and
therefore they are not bound by it. What UOI said has no legal sanctity in the light of what HON Justice Bandari said
in his judgment : ‘ In the facts and
circumstances of the case I am of the view that the resolution passed by the
Board of LIC does not need the approval of the Central Government thus the Corporation
give effect to the resolution D/ 24-11-2001.
This is one gray area which would come up for adjudication
by SC. While it is crystal clear that in GOI ‘s own submission while framing
our pension rules that where a matter is concerned of public interest GOI’s permission is
required and in other matters where no public interest is involved it is well
within LIC’s domain to act and one such matter is the removal of the anomaly in
DR and pension upgradation at every wage revision. The very SEC 48 which has
raped the LIC autonomy with the blessings of the Parliament has to be scrutinized
by the apex court as to its applicability in our case where no public interest
is involved and whether SEC 48 has to be scrapped as it is unconstitutional.
Bouquets to Shri A.S.Rmanathan who has cleverly pointed out
that every law enacted by the Parliament shall not be in conflict with the
constitutional provision and every rule made by the Government shall be within
the parameter of the law relating to which the rules are made. Such rule should
also confine to the provisions of the constitution. SEC 48 suffers from this
infirmity.
Forgetting for a
moment this SEC 48, the IDES of March and what not let us recollect what Justice
Krishna Iyer in his inimitable style wrote in his letter D/July 17 2010 to
Pranab Mukherjee highlighting the plight of the LIC pensioners : “ Pensioners
cannot be classified on the basis of retirement as it does not satisfy the test
of Article 14 of the Constitution ………… May I disclose to you the pathetic
condition of a class of people arbitrarily alienated from the beneficial stream
of pensioners in LIC. What is arbitrary is unconstitutional as the CONSTITUTION
BENCH in the SC has held in the Maneka Gandhi’s case
……..Again in a weighty judgment in Nakara V UOI SC has
observed that the date of variation cannot be the basis of differential
pension. ………The older the age of the pensioner greater the need for liberal
pension since age invites infirmity. LIC pensioners are one integrated group
and cannot be divided into different classes. “
The Court has to be told that it is a blatant disregard of
GOI’s own commitment that in matters relating to PENSION AND OTHER BENEFITS in
respect of which no express provision has been made in these rules shall be
governed by the corresponding provision contained in the Central Civil Services
Pension rules of 1972 or Central civil services
commutation of pension rules of 1981. Were it to be so Pension in LIC
ought to have been revised when wages
were revised.
This note may sound to those regular visitors to LIC Pensioners Chronicle as old wine in new bottle. However Wine guzzlers know
older the wine greater its efficacy.
Chronicle: Right Path, Right Path!
Accusations against LIC PENSIONERS' Chronicle of
siding with any section or individual / s and propagating
the views does not hold good. I have been closely
observing the CHRONICLE for the last 4/5 years. It is
true that some one writes frequently and finds his
writing uploaded in the pages of Chronicle while who
does not write anything or writes rarely, should not
expect his views uploaded.
The editor of the Chronicle does not hold brief for any
one except the community of pensioners. This truth has
to be borne in mind. Thank you, Gangadharanji for
running the Chronicle in the right direction.
Subir Kumar Mazumder
Thank you Shri Mazumder. More comments on the subject
may be avoided. But all are welcome to send in comments
to criticise us, if they wish to do so. -Ed.
LIC Pensioners Chronicle
Our attention has been drawn to a statement circulated in a meeting of retired employees at Hyderabad by Shri GN Sridharan. It is unfortunate that mention about Pensioners Chronicle has been made to show the blog as a handy platform for a faction of retired LIC officers at Hyderabad. It may be clarified that Pensioners Chronicle has a very independent policy with regard to the various pensioners associations and the problems of pensioners in general. All pensioner associations have freely made use of Chronicle as a vehicle for communicating news and views. Shri GN Sridharan is no exception.
Shri Sreenivasa Murty
has been frequently
writing details of his
views and various
approaches in the
Supreme Court and we
do publish the same. Our policy is to publish the materials we receive
for publication.
- But what is more important and dear to the Editor is to get opposite views for publishing the same prominently. Certain positive developments are covered with utmost care and with all importance. This is why we prominently covered the Chandigarh reception given to Shri Asthana. Shri Hegde from Udupi used to write very clear and candid arguments opposing those advanced by Shri Murty. Every time Shri Hegde wrote, we happily allowed him very prominent coverage. And we wish others too had come forward to express their views. Such exchange of views is our ardent desire.
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