Life Certificate - RBI directs Banks to acknowledge Life Certificate

Mandatory issue of acknowledgement to pensioners on submission of life certificates

RBI/2014-15/587

DGBA.GAD No.H- 5013/45.01.001/2014-15 May 07, 2015

The Chairman/ Chief Executive Officer
All Agency Banks


Dear Sir,

Mandatory issue of acknowledgement to pensioners on submission of life certificates

In terms of extant instructions, all pensioners are required to furnish a life certificate to the pension disbursing bank every year in November for continuance of pension. This certificate can be submitted at any branch of the pension paying bank. The Government of India has also launched from September, 2014 a scheme for introduction of Aadhaar based digital life certificates known as Jeevan Pramaan, which was conveyed to you vide our circular dated December 9, 2014.

2. Notwithstanding the above, we have been receiving complaints from central/state government pensioners/ pensioners’ associations regarding pensioners being deprived of regular pension payments due to misplacement of life certificates at the branches concerned. In order to alleviate the hardships faced by pensioners on this account, all agency banks handling government pension payments may, henceforth, issue a duly signed acknowledgement to pensioners on receipt of the life certificate submitted in physical form. Banks may also consider entering the same in their CBS immediately on receipt and issuing a system generated receipt to the pensioners. This would serve the twin purpose of acknowledgement to the pensioners as well as real-time updation of records.

3. You may also promote the use of digital life certificates among pensioners, which would eliminate the need for physical presence at branches and issue of acknowledgement.


Yours faithfully
(Monisha Chakraborty)
General Manager
(Courtesy: Perumal Maruthu)

A TOTALLY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT

Dear Shri.Gangadharan,

The Supreme Courts Order of the 7th 
should be looked at as a 'Glass Half Full', 
and not as one 'Half Empty' : A totally positive
development looked at from any angle. 
With this, we can say that we
have made a clean break with the past. 
No doubt, what the order
contains will be known only when we get 
hold of it.The Devil is in the Details.

Reading between the lines, my surmise is that the order is, perhaps,
referring only to interim payment of 20% arrears of difference in DR
to all the pre-1997 retirees. This is partly corroborated by the fact,
that while the DR is almost a settled issue (Jaipur,Punjab & Chandigarh
and Delhi High court decisions), the upgradation conundrum
doesn't enjoy the same status. Moreover, while the arrears of
difference in DR is easily quantifiable, the arrears arising out of
difference in pension is not and hence the relevance of time limit of
six weeks by the Apex Court. Or, in other words, this is a grey
area. Mr.G.N.Sreedharan, has highlighted this aspect by saying that
while SLPs are filed only against Jaipur Court judgement, no SLP is
filed by the GOI against Delhi High court judgement. If the part payment
is restricted only to the petitioners, then the complications cited by
Shri.Mahadevan will come to the fore. As far as the DA issue is
concerned the Govt. also doesn't seem to be disinclined.

Our Case Managers and their counsel deserve our unqualified praise
and appreciation for this major breakthrough. In September, not only
our Case Managers and their counsels converge in Delhi physically but
with convergence of views March towards the Supreme Court. Till then,
as one Blogger advised, let us try to Manage a DVD of "COME
SEPTEMBER" or at least its poorer cousin "ANBE VAA", a remake of the
same movie in Tamil.

One who fights and runs away lives to fight another Day, so goes the
saying. So let our Jaipur friends, in particular, equip themselves
legally to carry on the fight from September.

Last but not the least, our sincere thanks and gratitude to the
Editor for keeping us all wired all the time.

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SD Sharma's post in Chat-n-Chat column

Referring to Mr S D Sarma’s post, my view is that the although the SC order on 7/5/2015 was basically in respect of the CA against the Jaipur judgment, considering the fact that the other two CAs are also tagged with the former CA, any interim payment ordered should satisfy the original petitioners under all the CAs.

Although there are only 60 petitioners under Jaipur & Chandigarh judgments, as Delhi HC provides for ‘in rem’ benefits, the interim payment will be required to be paid to all Class I pensioners retired prior to 1/8/1997.

But the question is whether  they can restrict the interim payment to only Class I pensioners and also whether even pre-August 1997 pensioners will be paid only restricted benefits on  DR anomaly removal & 100% DR neutralisation while for pre_August 1997 retiree- petitioners under the Jaipur & Chandigarh writs upgraded pension will have to be paid. 

Again there is the question whether they can restrict  the interim payment only to pre-August 1997 retirees leaving the post -July 1997 retirees who too are suffering from pension discrimination.

In consequence, any interim payment short of upgraded pension for some pensioners and interim payment  with upgraded pension  for some others  and also based on cut-off date of 1st  August 1997 will  be discriminatory, which situation is sought to be done away with through the Civil Appeals.

I am sure that the written order of the SC will address such concerns. Let us wait and see.

With greetings,

C H Mahadevan

PORTRAYAL OF "LION" OUT OF CONTEXT

Respected Sir,

You have taken great pains to post email at the very earliest to enlighten
us about the verdict.

Sir, credit goes to you and please accept my heartiest congratulations for
splendid victory which would be the basis for Sept. 2015.

I was an admirer of yours since in 1988 when I became Programmer I and now
a member of your association from 1.4.2013.

By the way I point out to your Sir, that one image posted by Chronicle under heading "Lion" or so does not          seem to be good portrayal and out of context on public blog.

With highest regards,

Chandrashekhar Dattatraya Kulkarni
Nasik City

(Letter addressed to Shri GN Sridharan)

COMMENTS ON TODAY'S DEVELOPMENTS IN SUPREME COURT (3)

Dear All,

It has been reported that the Supreme Court in today's hearing  has ordered posting of the CAs to be heard on 23/9/2015.

It is also reported that that the Apex court has ordered an interim payment of 20% of arrears due to the petitioners within 6 weeks. Mr G N Sridharan has reported that the SC has ordered interim payment to all pensioners. But the context of his remarks seems to indicate interim payment only to all pre-August 1997 retirees. So there is some lack of clarity on the exact directions of the SC except to the extent of adjournment of hearing on 23/9/2015.

The exact details will be known once the written order of the Supreme Court on 7/5/2025 is released. Let us hope for  the order to be released within the next few days when we will know what is in store for pensioners.

But in all these developments, the saving grace is that the hearing on 7/5/2015 did not get bogged down with the issue of maintainability of the SLPs of LIC.Let us all look forward to some concrete information of positive nature .

With greetings,

C H Mahadevan

COMMENTS ON TODAY'S SC DEVELOPMENTS (2)

The break news suggests some ground is broken. Though matters are not moving with break-neck speed still it is good enough. If the order is for release of 20 per cent of all amounts due to pensioners, the indication is definitely positive and encouraging. It would be a set back to UOI ( which is steering and driving LIC from backseat.)

Congratulations to counsel Shri Nidheesh Gupta and AIRIEF. My thanks to you also Shri PG for almost live coverage. Shri MSM did a fine job of keeping everyone informed of each development.

Now all of us in 70s or 80s can spend some quality time in summer with our children and grandchildren (subject to their availability or nearness) and wait for COME SEPTEMBER . Hope some of us remember the comedy with Rock Hudson and Gina Lollobrigida which we saw at the time of beginning of our career in LIC.

Still there is a lingering doubt ( as I have yet to see the court's order.) ....20 per cent of what Shri GNS wants or 20 per cent of what AIRIEF and Shri Asthana want? Or will LIC be free to have its own arithmetic once again? Hope the order in black and white will clear all doubts and leave nothing to ambiguity and uncertainity, as also several interpretations.

B.Ganga Raju Hyderabad

COMMENTS ON TODAY'S SUPREME COURT DEVELOPMENTS

Dear All,

It is not clear whether 20% of arrears are to be paid only to petitioners as reported by Shri B.R. Mehta or to all pensioners. Shri G.N. Sridharan has used the word employees, which here can only be taken to mean pensioners. Such conflicting reports should not be published as far as the Court Judgement is concerned.

Can you please look into it and do something.
With best wishes,

B.D. Bhargava

* WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE COURT DIRECTED ADJOURNMENT OF THE CASE SUBJECT TO LIC DEPOSITING WITHIN 6 WEEKS ARREARS PAYABLE TO ALL PENSIONERS (NOT MERELY TO PETITIONERS) "UNDER THE IMPUGNED JUDGMENT". THE WHOLE MATTER WILL BE CLEAR ONLY WHEN THE COURT ORDER IS RELEASED BY TOMORROW EVENING. Ed.

REPORT FROM FEDERATION OF LIC RETIRED OFFICERS ASSOCIATIONS

BR MEHTA WRITES

LIC PENSIONERS CASE WAS HEARD BY SUPREME COURT TODAY. AN ORDER PASSED

TO RELEASE 20% OF AMOUNT DUE TO *PETITIONERS WITHIN SIX WEEKS. NEXT

HEARING DATE FIXED AS 23RD SEPTEMBER 2015, THIS ORDER INCLUDES DA TO PRE

AUGUST 1997 AS WELL AS PENSION UPGRADATION AS PER IMPUGNED ORDER OF

JAIPUR HIGH COURT JUDGMENT. EXACT ORDER TO BE AVAILABLE ON SUPREME

COURT WEBSITE WILL THROW SOME MORE LIGHT.

"Pension arrears" in SIX weeks, else Contempt proceedings, writes G.Krishnaswamy

Shri Saxena President informs that Our Advocate Shri Nidesh Gupta forcefully argued and the Bench ordered payment of 20 % of "pension arrears"  within SIX weeks failing which Contempt proceedings may be initiated. 

But the SLP s have been admitted and Asthana has to reply to these. 

The case is adjourned to 23rd September 2015 (Wednesday)

G Krishnaswamy  Treasurer AIRIEF  7-5-2015

(This report added on 8-5-2015)

*** SC CASE - CASE ADJOURNED TO 23RD SEPTEMBER 2015 *** 20% ARREARS ORDERED TO BE PAID *** FOR DETAILS SC ORDER AWAITED ***

Shri Srinivasa Murty adds:-

Any further analysis will be sensible only after the Order is released by tomorrow.

There are several loopholes in what happened today.

1.  Bench does not bluntly reject Govt. & LIC plea.

2.  Adjournment beyond vacation is accepted subject to payment of 20% of the arrears payable (dangerously grey area is that 20% of arrears are as per the impugned judgment).

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Our FATE in Supreme Court today !

Dear Editor,

I am on my way to Supreme Court. 

Each Respondent group 

(Jaipur, Panchkula/Chandigah & Delhi) 

has its own approach to the issues. 

Today's proceedings are going to be extremely significant, 

as far as we are concerned. 

We are looking at it as NOW OR NEVER situation. 

Starting from today before the Court closes for vacation. 

Knowing LIC's and UoI's mind,

all of us are aware of how tough is the task before us. 

We are in HIS hands and so, we are SAFE. 

Await some exciting news as the day progresses. 

M Sreenivasa Murty 

Positive thinking

"MY VIEW - POST NO.11 and 12" of Shri M. Sreenivasa Murty are good examples of positive thinking. 

Hope all goes well with all the Case Managers.

Shri T.R.Madhavarao has revealed the truth. Shri Murty's views have been more or less the same.

May God bestow success upon the LIC pensioners.

SN ( a 1992 pensioner )

Kudos to Madhavarao Ji !

Dear Editor,

The exposure of Madhava Raoji though short is sharp and to the point at the right time and place is highly appreciable.

Narayanan N

SC CASE ON 7TH MAY

Sl No 19 is ours. 

First among  Part heard. 

Up to 18 are all Fresh matters. 

Should not take much time.

M Sreenivasa Murty 

CHENNAI MEETING AND ITS AFTERMATH

Chennai meeting of Retd. LIC Class I Officers Association

I am thankful to Sri TR Madhava Rao for his brief reporting of the AGM of Retd. Class-I Officers' Association meeting at Chennai on 02/05/2015. It is nice to find that Sri TR Madhavraoji could speak the truth in the AGM without caring for anybody's annoyance. It is like hitting the lion in its den. Hope the leadership of LIC Retired Cl-I Officers' Associations have seen the writing on the wall and the followers of DR anomaly removal only will realise the truth and stop clapping for the pied piper.
Regards,

Subir Kumar Mazumder

RETIRED LIC CLASS I OFFICERS' ASSOCIATION

CHENNAI

Annual General Body Meeting on 02. 05. 2015.

About 80 members were present -mostly pre August 1997. Sri.G.N.Sridharan President was the main speaker. Sri. M.Arunachalam (Vice President), Sri. D.Krishnan (Vice President) and 3 members spoke appreciating the efforts Sri.G.N.Sridharan has been taking (in spite of his old age ) to improve the lot of pensioners and endorsed his approach.

My presence in the meeting was referred to on 4/5 occasions. Therefore, some of the members suggested my participation in the discussions. So, I did. I wanted 20 minutes. Allowed. (My thanks to Sri. Krishnan). I spoke for 20+5 minutes questioning/correcting many of the statements made.

Please click below for the full text.

ARE THE LIC PENSIONERS HELPLESS?

The D Day is Tomorrow

MY VIEW - POST NO 12.

Dear Editor,

The endless wait has to come to an end. We should know by this evening where exactly our matters find a place in the Final Daily list and by what time tomorrow all our ‘learned counsel’ would spring to their feet to give us renewed vigour and new hope.  

Case Managers and the Petitioners are converging in the capital today. Hectic ‘conferences’ are scheduled till late evening while research in to a sea of case law goes on ceaselessly in the Lawyers’ chmabers. A Sr Counsel was heard stating the other day: ‘what are the ‘big’ issues involved in your cases?   There are hardly any. If the Bench is pleased to so direct, 7^th May could be the last day. Too good to believe but I am tempted to visualize it on those lines. In any case, let us prepare for such a possibility and a positive outcome.

Let the list be out this evening – we will take a FINAL VIEW of what is in store tomorrow in the prolonged Saga of our fight for justice.

Let’s continue our fervent prayers for success in all our endeavours for the common good. 

M.Sreenivasa Murty

Pension delayed by over 9 years - HC pulls up officials

Pulling up officials of the Accountant General’s office for delaying the payment of pension to a health official for over nine years, the Madras High Court asked the authorities how they would feel if they were in the retired official’s position .

“It is unfortunate that working officers forget that they will retire one day and will be in need of pension and if they are in this position, how they would feel?” the first Bench comprising Chief Justice S.K. Kaul and Justice T.S. Sivagnanam asked, passing orders on a contempt petition.

In a social structure like ours, the “only form of security” was pension and petitioners have been made to run from pillar to post for it, the Bench said and directed the authorities to process the petitioner’s case within a month and posted the matter for July 16.

Ten years after joining the health department as health visitor, petitioner K. Sarojamma was promoted as Community Health Member in February 1989. As per a GO issued, she was eligible for the pay scale as community health member from February 6, 1989. But in 2004, the Deputy Director of Health Services re-fixed her salary and further ordered for recovery of excess amount paid since 1989.

Appeal dismissed

When the petitioner moved the High Court, a single judge dismissed her appeal, which she challenged before a Division Bench. Despite the Bench allowing her appeal, the order was not complied with by officials and hence the contempt petition against the Director of Public Health and Preventive Medicine and Deputy Director of Health Services. The Bench further directed the Accountant General to process the case expeditiously.

ARE THE LIC PENSIONERS HELPLESS?

JUST ONE DAY TO GO

MY VIEW - POST NO 11.

Dear Editor,

The Final List for 7^th May is yet to come. It will perhaps be out by 6^th evening only. But all indications suggest that we will be called on 7^th.

There is a bit of good news, if I may describe so.  After our matters are taken up on 7^th May (theoretically they can even CONCLUDE on that day) as of now, THREE DAYS are earmarked for ‘Final Hearing’ matters during the following week, i.e., 12^th, 13^th & 14^th May 2015.  So, making a strong plea to the Bench to dispose of our matters before vacation shall be a worthwhile exercise.

Most of yesterday was spent on discussing and rehearsing strategy for a sensible closure of our matters and a quick positive outcome. We are fully geared to face any eventuality. 

Let’s wish and pray for the cases to be called and concluded on a positive Note, with no more adjournments

M.Sreenivasa Murty

SHRI JK SHARMA'S POST

Dear Editor,

In response to post from Sh. J.K.Sharma, my view is that let him think once again what is the basic purpose of LIC Pensioners Blogs. Basically it is to enhance awareness and sharing of all updates and opinions/views related to them through Case Managers and others working hard for welfare of pensioners. Let us agree that Chronicle has become a popular online platform for caring and sharing for entire LIC Pensioners community.

Our senior LIC Pensioners particularly those who are above 75  have contributed a lot of amount on many occasions towards legal fund of AIRIEF or even personal bank account of respected Sh. Asthana ji out of their meagre pension hoping that Acche Din Aane Wale Hain. This endless wait is going on for last many years and many of our senior pensioners or even petitioners in high courts have already left us.

All existing Pensioners want to know details of court proceedings while sitting at their sweet homes through blogs only.

• Who is responsible towards them ? Who will tell them what happened during last peshi? Why Contempt Petition at Jaipur High Court was withdrawn at last moment ? No body knows till date. Right to information with transparent and truthful reporting of court proceedings is our right and same is altogether different from stratgey part which may not be discussed on blogs.

Why senior advocate for Jaipur High Court is seeking adjourments? All pensioners want to know latest updates instantly since every one wants favorable verdict without further loss of time or even before coming supreme court summer vacations What was the fault of those who left this world without getting justice during their life time ?

Regards,
B.R.Mehta
Panchkula

ARE THE LIC PENSIONERS HELPLESS?

Two Days to go

MY VIEW - POST NO 10.

Dear Editor,

Let’s wish and pray for good luck to all Petitioners, all Case Managers and ALL Pensioners. 

M.Sreenivasa Murty

Chat-n-chat

JK SHARMA

Dear Editor, 

I am almost regular visitor to Chronicle. I am surprised to what the intelligentsia posers are now coming to give their saner advices to the main case manager Shri Asthana who is the only crusader in the case. 

They are considering themselves as Barristers-at-Law sitting at home and evaluating the performance of lawyers and advising them as to where they have gone wrong according to their own wisdom or what they should do. 

Where were they when none of these wrestlers came forward to Akhara of our case. It is only after retirement that they have become active. It would be better of their mental and physical health if they keep patience for sometime as the matter is at its fag end. 

Have faith on the crusader who had thought of the excesses being perpetrated by LIC, the Central Govt. and thought of fighting legally, more so those who are coming out with points for and against the cases are helping LIC and Union Govt and they do not understand that they are causing harm to the pensioner’s case and so to themselves. 

They have vacillating mind and actually they are doing harm to themselves. Legal strategies are kept secret and can not and should not be discussed in public and so also in your Pensioners Chronicle. 

These people should shed pessimism and be positive and have trust in the case manager, who has always won and if at all they thought of some positive helpful points they should secretly and confidentially write to Shri Asthana who would welcome suggestions instead of publishing their wisdom, which is of no avail for the pensioners since earlier they could not conceive of anything wrong being done to pensioners. 

I hope they would keep shut now and not cause harm to the case coming out for and against suggestions. Since your effort in publishing these remarks without thinking and understanding, this is also not a sane job. A publisher should assess and understand the efforts. I would request you not to publish such thing in your blog.

Thanking and wishing you good luck.

J.K. Sharma, KARNAL

Shri Sharma has written this post almost like the posts written by Shri MP Subrahmanian of Madurai in the past.  We value the advice of Shri Sharma and Shri Subrahmanian. But there are problems.  We should know that even AIRIEF leadership has problems in dealing with Shri Asthana. 

And those who have ever tried to come in contact with Shri Asthana will readily agree they have experienced difficulties. We too would like to go on record to say that we have experienced taste of his way of dealing with others with just nothing but only contempt. 

But we resisted the temptation of publishing certain materials thinking that we should not be a party to creating confusion and controversy at this time of our having the concluding sessions in the Supreme Court of India. We won't say Shri Asthana should change his style of functioning.  It is too late to aspire to harbour any such views or pious hopes. But Shri Sharma should know that some of those who criticise Shri Asthana may be perhaps doing so for some valid reasons.  Beyond that, we will not like to say anything. Let us wait for the Supreme Court case to conclude. -Ed.

Supreme Court: High courts are not listening to us. Why will people

The Supreme court is a worried institution today as it finds much to its dismay that its writ does not run over some of the High courts.” We do not know whether an ordinary citizen would think of complying with the orders of directions issued by this court” said the SC in an anguished and worried tone. It was reacting over the Karnataka HC which was dragging its feet over recruitment of judges even after SC directions to all the HCs to quickly fill up over 2000 vacancies to clear a monstrous back log of nearly 3 crores cases in lower courts. The SC warned the Karnataka HC “ If need be the HC should change the Registrar General and bring a person who can really help and assist the HC in complying with the orders issued by the SC. If we do not get an appropriate reply we will not hesitate to initiate appropriate contempt proceedings against the officers/authorities concerned.

(Extract from TOI MAY 3)

• Time and again eminent members of the judiciary have aired the urgency of revamping judiciary.GOI Law Ministry should swing into action to bring the reforms and also revisit their National Litigation policy which hither to remains as a hog wash.

R.K.VISWAANTHAN

B SUDHAKAR

Dear Editor,

 

This happens to be my 

first post to our Pensioners 

Chronicle. Firstly my sincere 

thanks to you Dear (to all 

pensioners in India and abroad) 

Editor for creating this 

wonderful fast communicating 

platform for us.

No wonder it reached a million hits already. It will reach 10 million mark also soon. 

Congratulations to you sir.

I am not an expert in legal matters and court proceedings. Still I venture to share some of my thoughts relating to our case at S.C., now waiting for final disposal.
All of us know that Sri.Asthanaji won the first legal battle for us at Rajasthan High Court. LIC Pensioners remember this forever with reverence. The judgment in our favour is “implement board resolution”.

In two other High Courts i.e. New Delhi & Chandigarh we have similar judgments making a reference to Rajasthan H.C. judgement. Subsequent to this five long years elapsed from the date of Rajasthan HC judgement & we have the taste of LIC response in all the cases they lost. Still we are fighting the case contributing from our retiral income. GOI which choose to remain behind the curtain so far made an appearance now with their appeals.

Now all these SLP’s, CA’s & appeals of LIC GOI & ours are tagged together and are placed before the SC bench for final disposal. I feel here our goal should be to hit the target by

a) Exposing the adamant and not caring attitude of LIC for all court orders in this case and how gleefully LIC made the payments to the courts without giving any details and escape court contempts.

b) Exposing to the bench how LIC by quoting the present pension rules and some sections of Acts. Ex: Sec 48 etc for non complying with the court orders. I think this bla…bla.. of LIC & GOI will not stand legal scrutiny because the implementation of these rules and sections of acts resulting in depriving a homogeneous group of people the protection given by Articles 14, 16 & 21 of our Constitution. No rules of any institution and sections of act cannot be above our Constitution provisions and rights guaranteed thereunder.

• When the Court starts hearing it is the normal practice to allow first the appellants (LIC/GOI) to present their case first. I wish our counsels should allow this to happen and then thrash the presentation of the appellants instead of intervening and requesting the court to dismiss the appeals on technical grounds. If the latter happens, I am sorry to say that we will be in square one again i.e. “Implement board resolution” and starting our fight afresh.

Our efforts in hitting the target will be successful only when our counsels fighting the case on our behalf get a detailed “speaking order” regarding implementation of upgradation of pension with details such as effective date, time frame for compliance, interest if any etc. very similar to the judgement of Karnataka High Court in the case of Bangalore Water Board vs Board pensioners.

By getting such an order only from the SC, we the very senior citizen pensioners can be assured of getting their long waited dream of upgraded pensions & arrears.
I look with hope like other pensioners for this dream to be fulfilled. I request our President and Legal Committee (AIRIEF) urge our counsels to achieve this for us.
I conclude this with my sincere thanks to Mr.S.S.Saxena (who succeeded me as SDM at Raipur, while in service) presently our President and Sri.M.Sreenivasa Murty (known to me since 1950’s) for their friendly elaborations of the court proceedings in our case as & when I disturbed them by phone calls.

B.SUDHAKAR,
Visakhapatnam

ARE THE LIC PENSIONERS HELPLESS?

Three Days to go

MY VIEW - POST NO 9.

Dear Editor,

There were some clouds of doubt about our case being listed on 7^th May. But according to the information I have and as per my understanding, these are passing clouds and would clear by 6^th May evening if not earlier and our matters will be called on 7^th May. (Strangely there is a Final List for 8^th May but not yet for 7^th).  

Let’s also hope that (all) the learned Counsel for (all) the parties would obey the categorical Order passed by Justice Dipak Misra on 8^th April 2015.

I am grateful for the couple of voices, especially Sri SN (a 1992 pensioner), heard through the Chronicle which were generally supportive to me and I owe them an assurance that I am not confining my efforts to my posts in the PC before and after each hearing. I am doing my substantial bit to help the common cause. I have reasons to keep them out of public domain for now, but my efforts are fully known to and totally endorsed by those who should know and who need to endorse. I wish, intellectuals like Sri MVV satisfy themselves that the logic if any, behind the so called silent strategy being adopted by the Jaipur Petitioners (it need not be disclosed to all and sundry) is known to and is endorsed by others (who matter) in the Organization which is funding the litigation. Here comes in to play the sacred doctrine of ‘accountability’.                

Silence becomes suspect if strategy is a mystery.

M.Sreenivasa Murty

SC CASE ON 7TH MAY

OUR SUPREME COURT CASE ON 7TH MAY 2015

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THE SAME DOES NOT FIND MENTION IN WEEKLY

LIST. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS

FROM CASE MANAGERS IN THIS MATTER.

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Contempt petition

QUESTION OF FATE !

UNION BANK RETIRED EMPLOYEES' ASSOCIATION

Subject :

​ Circular by AIBRF regarding delay in BP Talks and Retirees' Issues

ATTACHED

​Yours sincerely,​

B.G.Raithatha,

General Secretary

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SHRI MV VENUGOPALAN'S POST

 

" Our case on 7 th May ".

Shri M.V.Venugopalan has furnished in a nut 

shell, the past history and the present status 

of pensioners' on-going struggle in his write-up 

posted in PC on 02-05-2015. All that he 

has said are factual, balanced, and appreciable 

except ( may be) that he had better, refrained 

from making a 'reference to syndrome'. 

Hope this time around, it will not boomerang. 

All are extremely busy doing home 

work. Moreover, no need of tit for tat 

on each and every occasion.

Shri Nidhesh Gupta, the Sr. Counsel has put the cart(s) before the horse(s). Does not matter. The SLPs cannot be condoned, cannot be disregarded. They have to be heard and decided now or later.

The GOI bosses and their advisors continue to adopt usual tactical dilatory practices despite having been fired by the courts in half-a-dozen cases in pension related cases in the last two/ three years.

The SLPs might be without any justifiable grounds. If the hearing begins on 7 th May in all seriousness, the SLPs will take a day or two for dismissal by the Hon. Judges.

"Are the LIC pensioners helpless?" No, as long as there is Shri M.Sreenivasa Murty to boost the morale of the pensioners by regular updation with his spirited and (at times) critical comments.

With earnest prayers from all LIC pensioners to the Almighty,

SN (a 1992 pensioner)

ARE THE LIC PENSIONERS HELPLESS?

Four Days to go

MY VIEW - POST NO 8.

Dear Editor,

As each hour passes taking us forward to 7^th May, Thousands of LIC Pensioners expect not to be let down once again like in the past. 7^th May is going to be virtually the last opportunity for us to take back control of the proceedings (as magnanimously facilitated by his Lordship Justice Dipak Misra - read his directions of 08.04.2015 again and again – ‘we also intend to hear the case on merits. Learned counsel for the parties are requested to come prepared to argue the matter’.  

In the above context, I am bewildered and pained to read today a mail (in circulation from a high priest of the major organization believed to be fighting for the LIC Pensioners) which goes as below:

‘……the Iron Wall of Judicial processes & no decisive thinking & action by SC Bench causes disappointment & frustration, in spite of many MENTIONS, to go on postponing real FINAL hearing becomes a mockery of true justice & fair play, more so when it concerns Elders & Sr Citizens……’

My purpose in highlighting these facts is to renew my appeal to the ‘concerned’ not to let things slip yet again, pointing fingers at a wrong end. When we have something to do, we should do it, instead of blaming others. I am conscious that our task is real, real uphill. But we should still try hard and not give up.

   

Let us ALL make a concerted high-pitch plea to the Bench on 7^th May to hear, conclude and decide our case before vacation, which is an integral part of delivering  justice in our special circumstances.

                               

M.Sreenivasa Murty

MV VENUGOPALAN

Dear Shri.Gangadharan,

I am thankful to Shri.Mahadevan for throwing light on the subtle
distinction existing between the Pre-1997 and Post 1997 pensioners
when it comes to the sufferings faced by them. I appreciate his
businesslike and professional approach followed in replying to others
letters.

As regards the 'Maintainability' question, opinions of sorts have
been expressed. The fact that Shri.Asthana's advocate raised this point
on a happening which took place a year and half before and that it is
likely to drag the proceedings are well known to Shri.Asthana also. It
is, by now, is in the public domain. As an enlightened legal person
himself, and a pensioner who earned us three consecutive victories in
Jaipur High Court, he will be the last person to do anything that will
prolong conclusion of our case to our advantage. May be for tactical
or strategic reasons, he is restraining himself from speaking out his
mind. Let us place complete trust in his wisdom and legal acumen and
wish him and his counsel all the best on 7th. In this regard, I
entirely agree with Shti.B.S.Hegdes opinion.

In the meantime, the other case Managers, without wasting their
time on what others should do or should not do, focus on what they can
do to ensure that the case is taken up for hearing on 7th itself and
co-operate in its smooth conduct. They owe it to all the pensioners and
their families. All our three Case Managers are the best legal brains
we have, and let us hope they will deliver the goods by suitably
briefing their respective advocates.

As regards Mr.Murthy's tirade against me, I am not at all perturbed
by the choice epithets used by him. My humble request to him is
"please don't try to question the Editor's journalistic priorities and
discretion as to which POST should be given what importance". Please
revisit all your Posts that followed immediately after the Court
hearings. Instead of highlighting what you have done, you had only
picked holes in what the other Case Managers haven't done. Hence the
reference to the 'syndrome'. 

With Warm Regards,
M V VENUGOOPALAN

ADVANCE LIST FOR 7TH MAY

Dear Editor,

• Our cases do appear in the Advance List for 7th May which confirms we are on board.

• The exact Sl No and how many Miscellaneous cases are listed above ours will be known only on 6th evening. 

• We keep our fingers crossed on what is going to happen on that day, when the case is called.  

M Sreenivasa Murty 

Jaipur HC order not clear cut, leaves scope for interpretations

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MY VIEW - POST NO 7.

Dear Editor,

Mr Bhaktavatsala Rao’s apprehensions are not unfounded, going by our bitter experience on adjournments. But Mr Rao can remain hopeful that our cases will be ‘called’ on 7^th May (which will be confirmed tonight when the Final Weekly Cause List will be uploaded). Krishna Water sharing cases being heard by Justice Deepak Misra, should not disturb the published schedule of 7^th May.

Continuing to explain my humble ‘Views’ on our case-strategy per se, my appeal to the concerned is basically to desist from any move that has the potential to push the hearing beyond summer vacation.  It also has a bearing on the wider implications of the eventual outcome itself.

Assuming that any of the Pensioner groups (it can only be Jaipur, that too theoretically) succeeds in getting the CAs/SLPS dismissed as not maintainable, the Bench would not go in to merits of the Appeals. It would even say so. What is the impact on Pensioners’ interests if such a thing happens? The clock of justice gets re-set to 12.01.2010. We got the LIC’s Appeals & UoI’s SLPs dismissed – but we have nothing to gain. LIC would merrily play with its own interpretation of the Board Resolution. DR Anomaly for pre-97 retirees would be set right PARTIALLY.  Pension Revision on par with Government pension Rules, remains a mirage.                              

So Let’s Try on May 7 for Something Better.

M.Sreenivasa Murty

"MAY DAY" IS TODAY !

International Workers’ Day is today-the first day of May
My Lord! Thee created the world, humans and animals. I pray
Welfare of the working class – must for the welfare of Society
Sure whose welfare is a must for the welfare of the world’s safety!

May Day is celebrated for centuries all over the globe
Workers must unite and serve all and their duty is not to probe
Who is right and who is wrong but to be above board and devote
Their time for productivity greater which in turn helps promote!

Promoting peace and plenty, health and happiness on earth duty
My Lord! The guide and protector let me enjoy nature’s beauty
Enhancing my peace and joy, passing the same to my folks at home
I do assert for my rights, at the same time help the nation grow!

No strikes nor lock-outs, all concerned to work in peace and harmony
Workers- partners for plenty –sure not to bring in disharmony
No conflicts with peers and clients, up and down -treat all as equal
No dream but reality, the earth will be heaven- a marvel!

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Dipak Misra bench hearing Krishna waters case on 6th; will it mar our prospects on 7th May ?

Our case is posted for hearing to 7th of May, 2015.

On an earlier occasion on 22.4.15 our case could not come up for hearing because of Ms.Jayalalitha case where in the SC bench was headed by Justice Dipak Misra. On 29/30th April, 15 one of our Advocates was not available. Non availability of Advocates in our case is not new.. even an advocate`s friend's illness also had come in our way and the case is easily postponed/adjourned.

Adjournment of our pensioners case has become a routine matter. How many of us see the light of final hearing (leave alone the final verdict and its implementation if it is in our favour). Day by day one by one is leaving this world. GOI and LIC are trying their best to postpone the case and the Advocates are helping the GOI and LIC combine for postponing the case almost indefinitely there by filling their pockets with huge amounts from both the sides.

Where are we heading for. Ours is a SENIOR CITIZENS CASE.  During last ten to fifteen years, how many have died and how many are counting their last days.  Why not the judiciary think of this or our case managers are failing to project such a situation?  What happened to NATIONAL LITIGATION POLICY.  Has it gone to dustbin in the CLEAN AND GREEN PROGRAMME of our Modi Government.

• On 6th of May,15 a SC bench consisting of Justice Dipak Misra is to hear the case of distribution of Krishna Waters between Andhra Pradesh and Telangana. Is it going to finish this case on 6th May,15 itself ? Our case is not going to finish in one or two hours. I'm afraid It may not be even possible to open hearing of our case on 7th May,15 .

So my dear LIC pensioner brothers and sisters .. forget our case for time being.  let us spend our last days in peace of mind and spend happily with our grand and great grand children.  If we think our case is a DEAD CASE, our blood pressure will be in control and we will be having a GOOD MORNING, GOOD EVENING AND FINALLY A GOOD BYE.

K BHAKTAVATSALA RAO