* CHRONICLE - PENSIONERS CONVERGE HERE, DISCUSS ISSUES OF THEIR CHOICE * CHRONICLE - WHERE EVEN CHAT COLUMN PRODUCES GREAT DISCUSSIONS * CHRONICLE - WHERE MUSIC IS RISING IN CRESCENDO !

Sunday, June 30, 2013

NITHIN'S: "TIME FOR REVIEW" !







Let me thank Shri RK Viswanathan for his comments:
"Bouquets to you for the excellent portal you have created for the benefit of the pensioners." 

Whether your Editor deserves it or not, Shri Viswanathan appeared to be sincere when he sent the bouquet to you.



That was an excellent selection of photograph for 
TEEN DOSTON KI KAHANI. 
Kudos to the Editor.






GNS commented: "These friends should understand that even judiciary will not direct change of policy which is the prerogative of the executive. This can be broken only by hard canvassing by combined efforts of all". 

I would better go by the argument put forward by Shri RK Viswanthan when he says:"the plea that the pension rules are uniform for both the Insurance and Banking industry and therefore any change to benefit the pensioners in the Insurance industry would have a ripple effect in the Banking industry is their domestic problem and cannot be mixed with the legal issues which has been  the outcome of obnoxious pension rules negating the fundamental rights of the pensioners besides creating different classes within the same class of pensioners."


"It is obvious that Shri Nartarajan is oblivious of the Interim order of the Supreme Court dated 14/11/2011 and clarificatory order of the same court on 17th Oct 12 on the basis of the main prayer before the Supreme Court," writes Shri KKD Hanumantha Rao.

These are the two orders which Shri Asthana would like to forget. He did not get all the relief he wanted from these orders and finally he had to go back to Jaipur court where the fate of contempt petition was sealed off.




SHUKLA got himself squeezed !
Poor Dinker Shukla from Jamnagar was at the receiving end. But he was an honest and a straight forward gentleman.  He just aired his views. Dinker can continue to do so.  Atleast at this age, we should not be afraid of anybody.  Also there is no need to 'withdraw' your comments!

LIC PENSIONERS CALICUT should be grateful to him for he afforded an opportunity to the blog to conduct a very good discussion.   





  • WE HAVE MET, MIXED & MINGLED AT EVER SO MANY PLACES……THE HIGH  WATERMARK OF UR BRILLIANT ORATORY, THE VIBRANT & RESONANT VOICE, THE MODULATIONS, THE PAUSE, THE GREAT INSPIRATIONS U ALWAYS PROVIDE IN UR WRITINGS & THUMPING SPEECHES, THE MANY YEARS OF SDM CONFERENCE SPEECHES OF URS AS MD,  I ALWAYS READ WITH AVID INTEREST & LONGING, ABOVE ALL THE STERLING QUOTATIONS, THE INNUMERABLE ANECDOTES & SUCCESS STORIES OF ADMINISTRATION & MARKETING U SPRINKLE, ALSO LACED WITH SPICY & JUICY HUMOUR, THROWING A CHALLENGE TO THE AUDIENCE & AWAKENING THEIR SPIRIT OF BELONGING & TOGETHERNESS IN A COMMON CAUSE --- ALL THESE & MANY MORE WITH UR ETERNAL SMILE MADE U THE PERFECT FIT FOR BEING THE LEADER OF THIS MIGHTY INSTITUTION TO MARK ITS DESTINY. (Excerpts from RBK's letter.)
  • Sorry to note, nowhere it is written that he is a good administrator.  Good orators are seldom good administrators, I'm afraid. They will only burn midnight oil to practice speeches for the coming days! 

TAIL PIECE


  
Shri Mehrotra, former Chairman, LIC of india, has joined the Federations of Retd. Class I Officers Associations.





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Saturday, June 29, 2013



This is the concluding part of the article 'the confusion' by Shri V.S. Prakasarao, Visakhapatnam.



THE ARGUMENT THAT THE UPDATION IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO THE PRE-1-8-1997 RETIREES IS NOT TENABLE.  IF WE ACCEPT THIS LINE, THEN RETIREES AFTER 1-8-1997 FORM A NEW GROUP WHO ARE DEPRIVED OF UPDATION WHEN THE PRE AUG.97 RETIREES GOT UPDATION.  SO IT AMOUNTS TO DISCRIMINATION AGAIN AND ANOMALOUS WHICH AGAIN TANTAMOUNTS  TO VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION.  

IN THE ALTERNATIVE, THE MANAGEMENT SHOULD REMOVE THE TAPERING EFFECT IN D/R AND ALLOW THEM ONLY 100% NEUTRALISATION OF D/R  AS IS BEING ENJOYED BY THE RETIREES AFTER 1-8-1997. THEN THERE WILL NOT BE UPGRADATION OF BASIC PENSION TO THE RETIREES FROM 1-1-86 TO 31-7-1997 WHO SUFFERED TAPERED D/R. IN THE LIGHT OF THIS WE HAVE TO REJECT THE ARGUMENT THAT THE RESOLUTION IS ONLY FOR PRE AUG.1997 RETIREES. 

THE MANAGEMENT OBVIOUSLY TOOK THE CUE FROM OUR DEBATE AND DISCUSSIONS AND TOOK THE STAND IN ITS REPLY TO I.A. NO.7-8 THAT THE BENEFITS ARE AVAILABLE ONLY TO PRE AUG.97 RETIREES AND NOT TO POST AUGUST 97 RETIREES WHEREBY CALCULATIONS WERE NOT MADE FOR 5 PETITIONERS OF THE 27 PETITIONERS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE MANAGEMENT DID NOT TAKE THIS STAND BEFORE JAIPUR H.C.  NEVER THEY PLEADED THAT 5 PETITIONERS OF THE W.P. 654/2007 BE DEBARRED FROM FILING THE PETITION. BUT NOW THEY PRESENTED THE NEW ARGUMENT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR DIVERGENT VIEWS AND INTERPRETATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS. THUS WE WERE DIGGING OUR OWN GRAVE. 

FURTHER THE MANAGEMENT WAS SILENT ON THE 11.25 % WEIGHTAGE MENTIONED IN THE RESOLUTION. MUCH WORSE,  THEY PRESENTED THE AFFIDAVIT DT. 4-5-2011 SUBMITTED BY G.O.I.  BEFORE THE ALLAHABAD HC WHICH STATED THAT THE L.I.C. PROPOSAL WAS CONSIDERED IN THE DEPT. IN CONSULTATION WITH THE BANKING DIVISION.  PARA 7 OF THE AFFIDAVIT IS REPRODUCED "THAT THE ABOVE PROPOSAL WAS CONSIDERED IN THE DEPT. IN CONSULTATION WITH THE BANKING DIVISION WHO INFORMED THAT ANY MODIFICATION WITH REGARD TO UPGRADING OR CHANGE IN THE DEARNESS FORMULA IN THE INSURANCE SECTOR MAY HAVE REPERCUSSIONS ON PUBLIC SECTOR BANKS AS WELL AS OTHER FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND ADVISED THIS DIVISION NOT TO AGREE TO THE REQUEST MADE BY L.I.C AND TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN PARITY WITH REGARD TO D/R WITH THE PUBLIC SECTOR BANKS." HENCE THE PROPOSAL OF LIC AS PER THEIR BOARD RESOLUTION WAS NOT ACCEPTED.
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CPI FOR MAY 2013





CPI FOR THE MONTH OF MAY 2013: 228.  

  TO SEE FIGURES FROM JANUARY 2013 TO MAY 2013, PLEASE VISIT PAGES OF THE BLOG.

STATEMENT ISSUED BY RB KISHORE



DEAR EDITOR,

1) I WAS AGHAST TO GO THRO THE EDITED WRITEUP U RELEASED TODAY COMMENTING ON MY EMAIL TO SRI SKROY.

I MUST SAY,AT THE OUTSET, THAT IT IS A WRONG & ERRONEOUS IMPRESSION TO CATEGORISE MY EMAIL TO SRI SK ROY AS A PERSONAL ONE. I HAVE WRITTEN IT AS VP, AIRIEF, WHICH I MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY THEREIN.  I ALWAYS BRING IN A PERSONAL TOUCH IN MY COMMUNICATIONS TO BRING PROXIMITY AND TO REMOVE THE IRON CURTAIN OR GHUNGHAT. THRO OUT MY CAREER TOO, FOR LONG 35 YRS, I HAVE NEVER BEEN A SHOESHINE BOY. I HAVE ADORNED SEVERAL POSTS IN FEDERATION OF LIC CLASS I OFFICERS ASSONS,WHILE IN SERVICE.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY LINE TO INDICATE THAT I WANT TO BOOST MY IMAGE. I AM A LOYAL SOLDIER, COMMITTED ACTIVIST THOROUGH WITH PENSION & PENSIONERS ISSUES,WORKING STRENUOUSLY FOR THE LARGER GOOD OF ALL GROUPS OF PENSIONERS. I HAVE PLEADED FOR THE CAUSE OF PENSIONERS IN MY EMAIL .


2) IT IS TANGENTIAL OR PERHAPS BETTER TO SAY, WIDE OFF THE MARK TO MENTION THAT ON THE ONE HAND, WE PRAISE LIC CHAIRMAN OR WRITE TO HIM AND ON THE OTHER FILE A CONTEMPT PETITION. SORRY, ANY REMEDY, ANY WEAPON AVAILABLE IN A LAWYER'S ARMOURY TO PROCEED WITH HIS JUST CASE AND CAUSE, THE LAWYER OR LITIGANT IS SURE TO UTILISE FOR DRIVING HOME HIS DETERMINATION TO BRING THE ERRING PARTY TO BOOK.

3) WE ARE NEVER AWAY FROM MANAGEMENT. AIRIEF ORGANISING SECRETARY & 3 OTHER SENIOR OFFICE-BEARERS MET THEN LIC CHAIRMAN, EDP, CHIEF(P), SECRETARY (ER) ON 25 MARCH, 2013 IN CONFERENCE HALL OF LIC CO FOR MORE THAN 45 MINUTES AND IT WAS A PRODUCTIVE MEETING EXCHANGING VIEWPOINTS ON MANY ISSUES AFFLICTING PENSIONERS.

4) EVEN IF COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS SUBJECT IS CLOSED, EDITORIAL ETIQUETTE & PRUDENCE JUSTIFY THE REPLY FROM THE AFFECTED PERSON TO PUBLISH HIS VIEWS AS WELL.

Greetings,
R.B.KISHORE

Friday, June 28, 2013


This is Part-2 of the article 'CONFUSION' by Shri Prakasarao.
The subject and the details have been already dealt with.  -  Some of the readers have onceagain asked us these details.  -  For the benefit of such readers, we are placing this article here. - Ed.





LIC FELT NEED TO RATIONALISE DR - IN THIS BACK GROUND, L.I.C FELT  THE NEED TO RATIONALISE THE DEARNESS RELIEF TO PENSIONERS RETIRED BEFORE 1ST AUGUST 1997. THE RULE ON DEARNESS RELIEF CREATED GROUPS AMONG PENSIONERS. THIS IS FOUND TO BE DISCRIMINATORY AND VIOLATIVE OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS. SO THE E.D(P) PREPARED A FOUR PAGES NOTE TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE LIC BOARD AT ITS 492ND MEETING HELD ON 24-11-2001.

BOARD DISCUSSION AND DECISION - AFTER DUE DELIBERATIONS THE BOARD  APPROVED THE "PROPOSAL" AND DECIDED TO IMPLEMENT IT PROSPECTIVELY AFTER OBTAINING THE GOVT APPROVAL. SO NOW LET US SEE THE  "PROPOSAL" CONSIDERED AND OKAYED BY THE BOARD ON 24-11-2001. THIS IS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE BECAUSE THE HON. SINGLE JUDGE OF JAIPUR H.C DIRECTED THE L.I.C TO IMPLEMENT THE RESOLUTION DATED 24-11-2000 PASSED BY THE BOARD.

SO WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL AS MADE OUT IN THE NOTE OF E.D(P). IT IS VERY INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT E.D(P) WROTE A LETTER TO FINANCE MINISTRY, REF: PER/ER/A/G/3457 GOVT.V/MMS DT.29.8.2001 INFORMING THE MINISTRY OF THE PROPOSAL OF RATIONALISATION OF D.R AND UPGRADATION THE PENSION. THEN E.D.(P) PREPARED THE NOTE TO THE 492nd BOARD MEETING DT. 24-11-2001.

I DO NOT HAVE THE 4 PAGE NOTE OF E.D.(P) WITH ME.  BUT I WENT THROUGH THE  AIIPA NOTE ON JAIPUR BENCH. “THE NOTE POINTED OUT TO THE DIFFERENT STRUCTURES OF DEARNESS RELIEF AS PER ANNEXURE IV OF PENSION RULES AND THAT IT RESULTED IN EROSION OF REAL VALUE OF PENSION OVER PERIOD OF TIME AND ALSO CAUSED ADMINISTRATIVE INCONVENIENCE .THE NOTE SAID IT HAS BECOME NECESSARY TO RATIONALISE DEARNESS RELIEF STRUCTURE AND PROVIDE SUITABLE UPDATION FORMULA TO UPGRADE THE BASIC PENSION TO THE EMPLOYEES WHO HAD RETIRED PRIOR TO AUG.1 1997.THE NOTE SAID THAT PROVISION TO UPGRADE DUE TO PERIODICAL REVISION IN CASE OF CENTRAL GOVT. EMPLOYEES IS INCORPORATED IN CENTRAL CIVIL SERVICES (PENSION) RULES ON THE BASIS OF WHICH LIC EMPLOYEES’ PENSION RULES HAVE BEEN DRAFTED.

(THIS IS THE RULE 56 OF L.I.C PENSION RULES.)

THE PROPOSAL INCORPORATED IN THE NOTE WAS TO UPGRADE PENSION AT 600 AND 1148 BY MERGING DEARNESS RELIEF PAYABLE UPTO 1740 POINTS AND TO PAY DEARNESS RELIEF ON THE UPDATED PENSION AT .23% OVER 1740 POINTS.”
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Dear shri Gangadharan,I have small suggestion to make. I think it is
better to avoid posting personal communications from one to another .....  I came across recently a message addressed to Shri. SK Roy the prospective Chairman of LIC. Couched in a language of
absolute ..... It is clear that the writer wants to project his own image..... 
  • Incidentally I am also having doubt arising out of the message in question. 
  • Why should people suddenly greet the chairman when they want the incumbent of the office of chairman to be fined or jailed for not honouring a court order which according to them has conferred unimaginable benefits on LIC pensioners? Strange indeed are the ways of 'leaders'. GN SRIDHARAN
(Certain portions omitted/edited. Further  correspondence on this matter closed. -Ed.)
We have also received other mails and telephone calls more or less of similar nature from different parts of the country. It looks rather strange. Anyway taking a cue from this, it has been decided that hereafter instead of covering exclusively LIC pensioner matters, matters of general interest, photographs etc. may also be uploaded/covered. Photographs of pensioners meetings may also be sent to us for publication. But materials that invite criticism may be avoided.
Please help us serve you better!
EDITOR



IT IS DECIDED TO SUBMIT IA IN S.C. REQUESTING EARLY HEARING OF SLP AND 
COUNTER REPLY OF GOVT'S AFFIDAVIT. 

DRAFT PREPARED BY ASTHANA HAS BEEN GIVEN TO SR.ADVOCATE 
SHRI NARSINGHA FOR APPROVAL. 

V.C.JAIN

Thursday, June 27, 2013


This subject and the details have been already dealt with.  -  Some of the readers have onceagain asked us these details.  -  For the benefit of such readers, we are placing this article here. - Ed.



THE GREAT CONFUSION -- KNOW THE FACTS

L.I.C MEANS LIFE IN CONFUSION. NOW WE THE PENSIONERS ARE VICTIMS OF THE THE FOUL GAME THAT IS BEING PLAYED BY THE L.I.C AND G.O.I VIOLATING THE RULES FRAMED BY THEMSELVES ON OUR PENSION.

BOARD RESOLUTION AND AFFIDAVIT IN ALLAHABAD HC - THE STALWARTS AMONGST US ARE VERY ACTIVE IN DEBATING ON THE RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD AND E.D.(P) NOTE . THE L.I.C IS TRYING TO MISLEAD THE APEX COURT IN INTERPRETING THE RESOLUTION SO THAT 5 PETITIONERS ARE DECLARED AS OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THE BOARD RESOLUTION.

L.I.C. REQUESTED THE SC TO ALLOW THE AFFIDAVIT FILED BY G.O.I. IN THE ALLAHABAD H.C.  ON 4-5-2011 WHICH TALKED OF RIPPLE EFFECT IN BANKING SECTOR AND APPROVAL WAS NOT GIVEN TO THE BOARD RESOLUTION.  BUT G.O.I. ALLOWED INCREASED PENSION TO S.B.I.  RETIREES IN 2006. IT IS TIME TO KEEP IN MIND SOME FACTS FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR PROBLEM TO MAKE CONCERTED EFFORTS TO ENSURE JUSTICE AND BETTER BENEFITS TO ALL PENSIONERS.

WHAT ARE THE FACTS.

1. THE LIC WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE L.I.C ACT 1956 TO NATIONALISE THE LIFE INSURANCE BUSINESS IN INDIA. THE ACT GAVE AUTONOMY TO L.I.C TO CARRY ON ITS DAY TO DAY BUSINESS SUBJECT TO THE POLICY GUIDELINES/RULES FRAMED BY THE G.O.I. SO MUCH SO L.I.C.  WAS DECLARED AS 'STATE'  BY DECIDED CASE LAW.

2.THE EMPLOYEES ORGANISATIONS FOUGHT THE LEGAL BATTLE ON THE ISSUE OF BONUS AT APEX COURT WHICH HELD THAT THE EXISTING BENEFIT BEING ENJOYED BY THE EMPLOYEES CAN NOT BE TAKEN AWAY UNILATERALLY UNLESS THE G.O.I BROUGHT NECESSARY AMENDMENT TO THE L.I.C ACT.
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A RAILWAYS EXPERIMENT....



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Readers may share photographs, other materials of general interest for publication.

JUDGE MISSES DAUGHTER'S WEDDING !



STRANGE BUT TRUE !






Judge Chockalingam could not attend his daughter's wedding in Karaikudi. In a lighter note he shared this information in the open court when Advocate  was not available in the court to argue for his clients who are owners of packaged drinking water firms who are alleged to have not maintained the BSI standard and his Junior told the judge that the senior was on the way from Madurai and sought adjournment. Justice Chockalingam said : 'I applied leave for today. All my relatives are present in Karaikudi.Though the invitations were given in my name I could not make for my daughter's wedding because I considered this case more important as it involves public health. I am present here because it is an important case for which we are working to day.The Member Secretary of the TNCB also rushed from Delhi. "How can u ask for time !".

At any time has any judge took sympathy in our cases involving aged pensioners suffering from multiple ailments who month after month are leaving this world.

( R.K.Viswanathan )

Wednesday, June 26, 2013








APPRECIATIONS APLENTY ! BUT WE HAVE A FEELING 
SO FAR YOU HAVE NOT SENT US 
A WORD OF CRITICISM....


at your service !

Monday, June 24, 2013

RB KISHORE GREETS CHAIRMAN-DESIGNATE SHRI SK ROY...












DEAR SHRI S.K.ROY,

1)HEARTIEST CONGRATULATIONS ON UR ELEVATION & APPOINTMENT AS LIC CHAIRMAN.  MY JOY KNOWS NO BOUNDS AS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PUBLIC SECTOR ORGANISATIONS,& LEADER IN FINANCIAL SERVICES, LIC WITH ITS WONDERFUL PUBLIC IMAGE & REPUTATION, MUST GALLOP FAST WITH NEW DYNAMISM

2)WITH A 5 YEAR STINT & WITH A PAST RICH EXPERIENCE IN DIVERSE FIELDS & DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS, U WILL EMERGE AS A LEADER WITH RARE FORESIGHT, INSIGHT & HINDSIGHT & A UNIQUE BLENDED VISION & MISSION TO REMAIN A MAJESTIC MARKET LEADER & ABOVE ALL TO SET NEW TRENDS IN HRD.OD & MARKETING WITH REAL CORPORATE GOVERNANCE ENABLING LIC FLAG TO FLY AT FULL MAST DAUNTING PROBLEMS OF WAGE TALKS & OTHER THORNY ISSUES WILL BE THERE, YET UNDAUNTED WITH COURAGE & CONFIDENCE, & ABOVE ALL DISPLAYING FOR SUCH A GIGANTIC FINANCIAL INSTITUTION A DEGREE OF INDEPENDENCE & AUTONOMY LIC RICHLY  DESERVES AS LIC IS AN OPEN BOOK OF SOLIDITY & SOLVENCY & STABILITY.

  • WE ARE SURE U WILL GO ALL OUT TO HELP NOT ONLY EMPLOYEES BUT ALSO PENSIONERS, WHO, AS U ARE AWARE, RICHLY DESERVE EMPATHY & SOLUTION TO THEIR GENUINE, MODEST &LEGITIMATE DEMANDS.

3)OUR GREETINGS TO U ON THIS HAPPY NEWS & OCCASION.

MAY THE ALMIGHTY SHOWER HIS BLESSINGS ON U, UR FAMILY & INSURANCE FRATERNITY TO LEAD TO SUCCESS & VICTORY & A GLOW & PRIDE IN EVERY LICian MEMORIES OF OUR ASSOCIATION SHALL BE EVER-GREEN.

Greetings & warm regards,

R.B.KISHORE 
ED(Retd),LIC
LIFE MEMBER,PROBUS CLUB,CHENNAI
VP, ALL INDIA RETD INSCE EMPLOYEES FEDN.

RK VISWANATHAN





GOVERNMENT OF INDIA (GOI) plea that the pension rules are uniform for both the Insurance and Banking industry and therefore any change to benefit the pensioners in the Insurance industry would have a ripple effect in the Banking industry is their domestic problem and cannot be mixed with the legal issues which has been  the outcome of obnoxious pension rules negating the fundamental rights of the pensioners besides creating different classes within the same class of pensioners.

Herein is an extract of the letter dated 17-7-2010 addressed to Shri Pranab Mukergee by the illustrious Justice V.R.Krishna Iyer :- “ May I disclose to you the pathetic condition of a class of people arbitrarily alienated for the beneficial  stream of pensioners in the LIC . What is arbitrary is unconstitutional as a Constitution Bench has held in SC in Menaka Gandhi case ( Menaka Gandhi v/s. UOI AIR 1978 SC 597 ) Here is a case of arbitrariness which I dare say has been overlooked by your ministry and must be set right once it is discovered. LIC pensioners are one integral group and cannot be divided into different classes."
  • The present posture of GOI is to disregard the court verdict, pooh-pooh the court judgments and drag on the suits as long as they can having known that they have very meek defense and their SLP is going to be their Waterloo. 
  • However much they rely upon their executive powers, whether Judiciary or Executive is supreme will be a litmus test and let us wait and see the result.

WHEN SLP ?
THAT'S THE CONFUSION...

Saturday, June 22, 2013





OF LATE WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING A LOT OF IMPORTANT MATERIALS FOR PUBLICATION. WHILE EVERY EFFORT IS MADE TO PUBLISH THEM, WE NOTICE THAT THERE IS DELAY. WE HAVE INCREASED THE FREQUENCY OF PUBLICATION OF POSTS. DESPITE THIS, A QUEUE IS FORMED. OUR VALUED CONTRIBUTORS MAY PLEASE BEAR WITH THE DELAY.

Editor 





DEAR SIR,

IT IS NATURAL AT THIS STAGE PEOPLE START LOSING PATIENCE BUT WE SHOULD NOT LOSE HEART MORE PARTICULARLY WHEN WE HAVE REACHED THE PINNACLE OF SUCCESS.  IN CASE WE LOOK TO WHAT LIC IS OFFERING IN SC AND WHAT GN SRIDHARAN IS PURSUING IS NOTHING BUT AN EFFORT TO BEFOOL US, RATHER THEY ARE SHOWING THEIR WILLINGNESS BECAUSE BY THAT THE TOTAL PENSION WILL BE REDUCED. PLEASE COMPARE THAT AT PRESENT WE ARE GETTING 0.35 PER SLAB UPTO 2400 AND 0.29 UPTO SAY UPTO 3750 BUT WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF THEIR OFFER THE DA RATE WILL BE REDUCED TO 0.25 UPTO 3750, WHAT WILL BE THE ULTIMATE GAIN, NOTHING.

KML ASTHANA


We are well past the negotiations stage. Legal fight in Supreme Court is inevitable and the only door open to us with the advantage of victories in three High courts.  Let us stay focused.
DR. PRITAM


HAVE H 'O' PES !
THAT'S THE NEED OF THE HOUR.
I am afraid that once we begin to negotiate as Sh D V Shukla has suggested, we shall by our act give a clear indication that we do not want the court's decision in our favour to be implemented. Every thing that the valiant Sh Asthana has gained for us will, in one stroke, be nullified. 
JK DHAR

(' BHAGWAN BHAROSE' concluded )

Friday, June 21, 2013

CONGRATULATIONS... SHRI THOMAS MATHEW.



DEAR SRI THOMAS MATHEW,
Shri T. Thomas Mathew
Current-in-Charge,LIC

  • 1) LE & RE CATARACT SURGERY THRO INTRAOCULAR FOLDABLE LENS GETTING OVER WITH USUAL PRECAUTIONS & CARE, VIRTUALLY MAKING ME A CAPTIVE RI AT HOME,DEBARRED FROM READING, WRITING THE FOUNTAIN OF KNOWLEDGE THRO WWW, I TAKE BOLD TO SALUTE U BELATEDLY FOR HAVING TAKEN REINS AS CURRENT-in-CHARGE OF LIC .
  • 2) UNDOUBTEDLY, THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE CAPSTONE OF UR MULTI-DIMENSIONAL CAREER AS U WERE DESTINED FOR A STILL HIGHER ASSIGNMENT FULL-FLEDGED.
  • WE HAVE MET, MIXED & MINGLED AT EVER SO MANY PLACES……THE HIGH  WATERMARK OF UR BRILLIANT ORATORY, THE VIBRANT & RESONANT VOICE, THE MODULATIONS, THE PAUSE, THE GREAT INSPIRATIONS U ALWAYS PROVIDE IN UR WRITINGS & THUMPING SPEECHES, THE MANY YEARS OF SDM CONFERENCE SPEECHES OF URS AS MD,  I ALWAYS READ WITH AVID INTEREST & LONGING, ABOVE ALL THE STERLING QUOTATIONS, THE INNUMERABLE ANECDOTES & SUCCESS STORIES OF ADMINISTRATION & MARKETING U SPRINKLE, ALSO LACED WITH SPICY & JUICY HUMOUR, THROWING A CHALLENGE TO THE AUDIENCE & AWAKENING THEIR SPIRIT OF BELONGING & TOGETHERNESS IN A COMMON CAUSE --- ALL THESE & MANY MORE WITH UR ETERNAL SMILE MADE U THE PERFECT FIT FOR BEING THE LEADER OF THIS MIGHTY INSTITUTION TO MARK ITS DESTINY.
  • 3) I WISH U ALL THE BEST IN THE LAST LAP OF UR LUSTROUS & SPARKLING CAREER MAY MORE ASSIGNMENTS COME UR WAY.
  • 4)  ENDEAVOUR & EVEN FIGHT FOR FULL AUTONOMY & INDEPENDENCE WITHOUT WHICH MANY ISSUES GO  AS BACKBURNERS, THE MOST ADVERSELY AFFECTED BEING THE ELDERS,SR CITIZENS & PENSIONERS WHO MADE THIS INSTITUTION WHAT IT IS TODAY PEOPLES MONEY FOR PEOPLES WELFARE IS FINE.LIC INVESTMENT IN 5-YEAR PLANS IS COLOSSAL.BUT WHEN LIC IS TREATED AS A MILCHCOW BY GOVT, EQUALLY UNFETTERED INDEPENDENCE, AUTONOMY & CORPORATE GOVERNANCE AT ITS HIGHEST MUST BE OPERATIONAL TO MAKE LIC A TRULY DASHING,DYNAMIC INSTITUTION WITH ITS OWN UNIQUENESS.
GREETINGS & WARM REGARDS,
R.B. KISHORE
ED(Retd),LIC






Dear Sh Shuklaji,

Nice to have aired your frank and free views. All pensioners want some solution to break the deadlock.
But LIC management has no guts to exercise their authority inspite of court orders as they are totally controlled by FM/GOI. 
Please refer to GOI affidavit filed in SC last month.  GOI particularly the FM seems to have instructed LIC &  Banks to go on  delaying the matter on one pretext or the other and do not obey HC/SC orders. Anyway let's not lose heart. Appreciate the efforts of Sh Asthanaji & AIRIEF who have been successfully fighting the legal battle for the last over 15 yrs. and are on the job
probing all possibilities and we should have the confidence; and strength to have patience in this polluted environment of system delays, sabotages, black sheeps, scrupulous elements, negative views etc. and with due regard to our advanced ages must continue our sincere and determined support, moral
& financial, to Sh KML Asthana & AIRIEF who are fighting for the common cause of all employees (Retired as well as existing) for upgradation of pension & removal of DA/DR anomaly.

With best wishes and regards
HK Aggarwal
77 yrs age pensioner.
Confusion ?



Dear sir,


FOR  CONSIDERABLE TIME, WE HAVE EXPERIENCE THAT NEITHER LIC HONOURS  HC VERDICTS  NOR EVEN  HC/SC TAKES ANY FIRM DECISION GIVING CLEAR CUT ORDERS TO  LIC. 

UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, HOW LONG WE SHALL WAIT FOR JUSTICE ?  WE HAVE NO WEAPON LIKE "STRIKE".

  • WE ARE ON " RAM BHAROSHE " UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.  I  BELIEVE THAT WE MAY CREATE A  SITUATION SO THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THE LIC MANAGEMENT AS IT DESIRES TO REMOVE DA ANOMALY OF LIC RETIREES BUT DOES NOT AGREE FOR RETROSPECTIVE EFFECT. 
  • WE MAY ACCEPT SUCH OFFER WHICH WILL INCREASE ENTHUSIASM OF RETIREES. WE ARE 70/75 PLUS. I REITERATE - HOW LONG WE SHALL WAIT FOR JUSTICE? 
  • BETTER WE MAY NEGOTIATE AND GET BENEFIT EVEN IN PIECEMEAL AT INTERVALS.  LOOKING TO OUR AGE FACTOR, INSTEAD OF LEGAL PROCEEDINGS, WHICH AS SEEN RECENTLY IS LONG WAY,  BETTER WE CHOOSE ALTERNATIVE STEPS WHICH IS IN MY VIEWPOINT - NEGOTIATION WITH LIC MANAGEMENT AND GET BENEFIT TO PENSIONERS - NO MATTER, EVEN IF WE DON'T GET  ALL BENEFITS AT A STRETCH.


KINDLY CONSIDER MY VIEWPOINT KEEPING IN VIEW OF ALL RETIREES AS A CLASS.


THANKS AND REGARDS,
DV SHUKLA   <dinkervshukla1@gmail.com> JAMNAGAR
___________________________________________________________________________________________
 (MORE RESPONSES RECEIVED ON THE SUBJECT FROM HK AGGARWAL, DR. PRITAM, JAI DHAR AND  KML ASTHANA WILL FOLLOW. - Ed.)






Dear Editor,

Bouquets to you for the excellent portal you have created for the benefit of the pensioners.

With regards
R.K.Viswanathan

Thursday, June 20, 2013

PLEASE SEE THE LATEST MEDICLAIM POLICY PLACED IN THE 'PAGES' SECTION OF THE BLOG.

KML ASTHANA'S STATEMENT.


NOW THAT THE SUMMER VACATIONS ARE THERE WE ARE WAITING FOR  REOPENING OF COURTS. WE ARE ON THE JOB TO GET THE MATTER DECIDED AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.  ALL OUT EFFORTS WILL BE MADE IN THIS DIRECTION.

PLEASE HAVE PATIENCE. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR US. PLEASE DON'T BE CARRIED AWAY BY THE FALSE AND FRUSTRATING PROPAGANDA OF SHRI SHRIDHARAN OR SHRI NATARAJAN OF AIIPA. THEY ARE PERSONS INTERESTED IN BLOCKING OUR VICTORY AND TAKING CREDIT FOR THEMSELVES. 

AFTER THE JUDGMENT IN SHRIDHARAN'S WRIT PETITION IN DELHI HC, THOUGH THE HIGH COURT HAS GRANTED IN THEIR WRIT PETITION NOT ONLY DR NEUTRALISATION AT 100%  BUT ALSO REVISION OF PENSION BUT STILL HE IS CREATING HURDLES IN OUR WAY BY WRITING TO CHAIRMAN AND CENTRAL GOVERNMENT TO REFIX THE PENSIONS AT WHAT THEY WERE GETTING ON 1/8/1997 WITHOUT UPDATING THE DR EVEN TO 100% AND ALSO WITHOUT FURTHER REVISIONS OF PENSIONS AS WE HAVE GOT.

Please click below to read KML Asthana's statement.




“The Management is well aware of the refrain of the AIIPA stressing the need to find an early solution to the twin issues of increased ex-gratia to pre-1986 retirees and full neutralization of dearness relief for August 1997 retirees”.  So says the letter dated 10th June2013 of the General Secretary of AIIPA to the Management of LIC.

The letter also says the top officials of L I C indicated that the Government was favourably disposed to look into the increased ex-gratia to pre-1986 retirees and full neutralization of Dearness relief to pre August 1997 retirees along with the gamut of other issues.

Sri Natarajan further says, ”Our fond hopes for settlement along with wage revision for in service employees vanished into the air”. The gamut of issues and how they are vanished into air are only known to Sri Natarajan because transparency is an age old policy and not a virtue at present. The AIIPA has been representing to find solutions without need to wait for judicial verdict as only legal nuances and the merits of the issues were being agitated upon. This means, according to Sri Natarajan, the issues now engaging the attention of the Rajasthan High Court and the Supreme Court have no merit. It is obvious that Shri Nartarajan is oblivious of the Interim order of the Supreme Court dated 14/11/2011 and clarificatory order of the same court on 17th Oct 12 on the basis of the main prayer before the Supreme Court.

L I C prayed for an interim order staying on the operation of the final judgment dated 18/8/2011 of the Rajasthan High Court dismissing the review petitions filed by L I C. LIC further requested the Supreme court to confirm this order in the final verdict on special leave petition. The Supreme Court ordered for payment of amount due to the employees on 14/11/2011.The amount due was clarified and date from which they are entitled to payment were stated in the clarificatory order of Supreme court dated 17/10/12. 

It is not pertinent for Sri Natarajan to point now about the issues in which the resolution was based. According to him:“The resolution of the LIC Board in Nov 2001 clearly indicates mind set of the Management for the grant of Uniform rate of Dearness relief both for Pre Aug 1997 and post July 1997 retirees. 

He then demands payment of Dearness relief to pre Aug 1997 from 1st Aug 1997 and not from their date of retirement. Let us see what the Division bench of Rajasthan High Court has observed on 21/1/2011 while dismissing the appeal of LIC on Justice MN Bhandari’s Judgment. It says,”The Board of LIC, who is the appellant before us against the judgment of the learned single judge, had itself taken a decision to remove the disparities and the discrimination with regard to the payment of DA and pension to the retired employees under its resolution dated 24/11/2001,which was in public interest. It is clear from this that the resolution of the Board was for removing Anomaly in the DA formula and also up gradation of Pension.

The understanding of Sri Natarajan has become warped and awry with too much understanding of the mind set of the Management.

Now, Sri Natrajan please answer these questions:

1) Do the order of the Supreme court on 4/11/2011 and the clarificatory order Dated 17/10/12 in any way affect the order dated 12/10/2010 of Sri MN Bhandari.

2) Where do you stand now? On the side of LIC or L I C pensioners who have steeped into late 70’s and about to reach early 80’s. They know the Nuance of Legal Terminology and are able to see clearly the final victory in near future. This will happen in spite of your occasional pronouncements. 



Wednesday, June 19, 2013

BANKING AND INSURANCE







Govternment's attitude on LIC pensioners' problems
 
- I refer to the extract from the Govt's affidavit posted in your blog couple of days back.





The highlighted point in the post is that the govt has taken the stand that it is their policy to treat Banking & Insurance as one unit in
all matters concerning employments, pensions etc. and consequently cannot decide even on DR anomaly faced by LIC pensioners in isolation from Banks. 





This stand may have come as a revelation to your correspondent. Mr. Asthana's supporters had bitterly criticised me when in my circular in Sept 2012 I had cautioned the pensioners 
GOVERNMENT AFFIDAVIT
that this clubbing policy of Govt. will be the biggest stumbling block. 





These friends should therefore understand that even judiciary will not direct change of policy which is the prerogative of the executive. This can be broken only by hard canvassing by combined efforts of all. 
  • The theory of everything for everybody through dismissal of SLPs must be kept aside and all should work for atleast some relief on DR 
  • The question however is whether all organisations of in service and Retd. Classes can come together at this critical hour? 
  • May God save the LIC pensioners ! 
GN SRIDHARAN

Tuesday, June 18, 2013



Dr pritam (dr.pritam@gmail.com)


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GOVT. AFFIDAVIT

There is no option other than fighting a 

grim battle in supreme court.


Let us contribute to that cause 

individually as well as 

collectively.